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Schneier on Security: The Value of Privacy

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Too many wrongly characterize the debate as "security versus privacy." The real choice is liberty versus control. Tyranny, whether it arises under threat of foreign physical attack or under constant domestic authoritative scrutiny, is still tyranny. Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread police surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why we should champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide.

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The next time some one comes out with, "If you aren't doing anything wrong then why are worried?" Just point them at this seed.

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Reply#1 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:38 PM EST
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It is always interesting when cops say this until they discover that someone has a camera and has taken movies or pictures of what they just did. They will confiscate the medium in a "New York Minute".

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#1.1 - Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:35 AM EST
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Cardinal Richelieu understood the value of surveillance when he famously said, "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." Watch someone long enough, and you'll find something to arrest -- or just blackmail -- with. Privacy is important because without it, surveillance information will be abused: to peep, to sell to marketers and to spy on political enemies -- whoever they happen to be at the time.

No one is totally without shame.

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Reply#2 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:06 AM EST
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